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. by the way, the pentagon has to be included in that as well. the big challenge we face is practical and time. when speaker boehner has to get specific about revenues, it's going to be a lot of anguish on the republican side. what we're going to look at on medicare is whether what we're doing is reforming the subpoena and bringing down the cost or just passing that cost off on to beneficiaries by cutting their benefits back. that's going to be tough on the democratic side. >> how about wealthy people? what about means testing medicare? you willing to do that? somebody's got $1 million in the bank. should they get medicare? >> up to a point. >> they should get medicare? >> they should get medicare, and there should be means testing. we're doing that now. so the fact is a balanced deal is the only way we're going to go forward. now, i am not advocating we go over the cliff. my preference is to get it done right away. but will we be able to do that when up until the election it was an over my dead body approach on both sides? now we're hearing the speaker and both sides say the right things, but
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